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Multi Managing | The Chiara Grisorio Interview

Managing motherhood, van life and the Drake/Northwave women's team

Above: Chiara and her daughter India out on a shoot.

The Luminaries Series is about shining a light on some of the most inspirational people in our industry, documenting their rise in their given professions, and sharing some of their insights from along the way.

Mother, women’s team manager for Drake and Northwave, and filmer, Chiara Grisorio is spinning more than a few plates while living the van life with her partner Alex Stewart. Somehow she pulls it all off, all the while focussing on paving the way for a more equal snowboard industry by confronting the issues surrounding equal prize money and brands on their lack of female team riders.

“Chiara’s caring approach and outspokenness are one of a kind, as she manages to keep a chilled tone whilst addressing issues that might get someone else to lose their way”

Chiara’s caring approach and outspokenness are one of a kind, as she manages to keep a chilled tone whilst addressing issues that might get someone else to lose their way. We caught up with this Italian on a Friday afternoon, just as storm Eunice was raging through Europe, immensely increasing the excitement of van life.

“India’s crib was sliding across the van; it was a nightmare. There was hale, wind, everything you can imagine. It was terrible.”, Chiara opens up the conversation when asked how the van’s been holding up in the storm. However, it’s also worked for the benefit of the crew.

“We’re in the Cech Republic now and yesterday we were filming with the Simpson brothers, Maisie Hill and Hrund Hanna and the van kind of saved us because we were behind it, and it was so windy, so we were protected by it.”

Chiara out shooting in a blizzard.

It’s only been 6 months since Chiara gave birth to her daughter India, but it seems like she has just jumped right back on it, making sure the van is constantly equipped for filming with Drake and Northwave and managing their women’s team. When asked if she’s actually taken a break, she laughs, and replies, “No,” followed by a slightly firmer No.”

“On top of everything, you’ve got all the other problems like oh no we need water for the van, oh shit, this broke and shit we need to get diapers for India you know stuff like that. It’s not smooth sailing.”

“Me and Alex are always out and about and we’re constantly surrounded by snowboarding, so I can’t really take a break. And it’s February, that time of the year when everyone’s filming, it’s the best snow, so it’s really difficult to take a break. Plus with Northwave and Drake, we’re getting into the graphics for the 2024 boards,” Chiara tells us while rocking India, trying to make sure her daughter doesn’t wake up mid-interview.

Chiara makes it all look easy, but it’s not been without its challenges. “I mean, February is the worst month and I had a little bit of a breakdown a few days ago. On top of everything, you’ve got all the other problems, like ‘Oh no, we need water for the van,’ ‘Oh shit, this broke,’ and ‘Shit, we need to get diapers for India.’ You know, stuff like that. It’s not smooth sailing.”

Chiara isn’t only managing motherhood but also the women’s snowboard team on Northwave/Drake, a role that she landed quite naturally about a year ago, “Alex was the initial global team manager for both women and men but he’s also the producer and founder of Rusty Toothbrush,  as well as a rider, so he needed help. We spoke to the brand, explaining that it doesn’t really make sense for Alex to be the women’s team manager. One, because he doesn’t have time and two, because women should have a woman as a team manager.”

She continues, “They were super supportive, and I was already working with them doing other stuff like translating the catalogue and putting together the newsletter, and Davide, head of the snowboard departments, was like ‘That makes total sense.’”

Out on a shoot for Northwave/Drake.

Chiara went on to build up the women’s team from only one female rider to eight in just one and a half years. But it won’t stop here – their goal is to have an equal amount of guys and girls on the team. In order to get there, there needs to be more female representation in snowboarding. Chiara explains, “Drake and Northwave didn’t really have a full-time team manager before Alex, and now me. For us, it has kind of become our main job, and it really makes a difference when you’ve got people who are active within the industry. It helps if you’re in the field, you know what’s going on, you see where the movement is going.”

Chiara and Alex enjoying the van life, with baby India in the stomach.

We’ve seen a lot of positive change over the last few years when it comes to more inclusion of women snowboarders, however, we’re not fully there yet and in order to go that extra mile, it’s important to be vocal about the inequalities. Why? Because sometimes the inequalities can be a result of people not acknowledging that there is an issue, thus failing to see that the issue even exists.

“I remember back in the day I used to get so intimidated by going in the park. There were only guys, literally maybe one or two girls and 100 guys hitting rails, and none of them would include you and this is what I mean.”

“There should be more women working with brands”, Chiara says. “Also, women should just get out there, literally be like ‘hire me, I know how to do this’. We sort of live in a world where the guys are always above us to a certain extent, and these things really need to change. I mean, myself, I kind of just started being active and participating, being out there, just claiming it.”

From Jess Kimura to Jib Gurl, we’ve seen more women taking a stand and raising their voice to confront inequalities. As part of producing and filming the all-female snowboard edit, PMS, (Please Make Space), Chiara too has played her part in pushing female snowboarding by highlighting how women have been ignored at photoshoots, contests, parks etc.

“That’s what I loved about Travis Rice doing Natural Selection, it gives women the chance to be included and then there will be a progression”

“The first thing I want to say, something that really has to be made clear is that I’ve heard a lot of guys say, ‘you were included’, and that’s not really true. Having the token girl, representing a little tiny percentage of snowboarding, is not being included. I remember back in the day I used to get so intimidated by going in the park. There were only guys, literally maybe one or two girls and 100 guys hitting rails, and none of them would include you and this is what I mean.”

She continues, “And still to this day, I’m hearing incredibly good women, street riders, being told, ‘We can’t film you’, and it’s mostly because they don’t feel like having women there, to show them how things are done, and that leaves a big gap between men and women. If you don’t give us the space, we’re never going to be able to do it.”

In recent years, the backcountry is perhaps the space where we’ve seen the most progression. “That’s what I loved about Travis Rice doing Natural Selection, it gives women the chance to be included and then there will be a progression,” Chiara explains.

“It is so important that people speak up because a lot of men aren’t aware of certain things, and that’s fine, but that’s why we have to do our job and just say it like it is. Or else, there will continue to be a gap”

Projects that include women snowboarders are essential for inclusivity and equality within snowboarding. But it isn’t just about having more riders, but also more filmers, photographers, shapers, etc – to fill the gap in each space in the industry, which is why Chiara can’t stress enough how important it is for women to speak up.

“We have to educate people on certain aspects and that’s why it is so important for women to be heard in this particular time. It is so important that people speak up because a lot of men aren’t aware of certain things, and that’s fine, but that’s why we have to do our job and just say it like it is. Or else, there will continue to be a gap.”

However, there has been a shift in recent years, and a lot of people, including Chiara, are stoked on the increasing exposure of female riders. “A lot of magazines are giving women a lot more coverage, so that’s also a big change. But there are still brands that don’t have women on their team or just have the token girl. You can’t have just one woman representing your brand, and sometimes it not even in the interest of the woman.”

Chiara, Alex and India out on a shoot together.

Chiara continues, “You get a woman on your team because it looks good for the brand to include them, but she isn’t allowed to participate in anything, she doesn’t have the possibility to go filming, to go to contests, and then they just sit there waiting for a call, or a possibility, while there’s a bunch of guys on the team that get do everything.”

We’re definitely witnessing a change for the better, but there is still loads to be done and as a mother of a little baby girl, Chiara is going to keep on using her voice to spread awareness and do her best to help create a more equal environment for her daughter to grow up in.

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